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#44 OU spotlight :WeaVile 玛狃拉研究

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IP属地:浙江1楼2015-08-02 21:15回复
    译者本弱渣和 @melonsonface
    Introduction
    Back in the XY OU metagame, Weavile was little more than a niche Pokémon; it was not exactly bad, but it was still uncommon and had little to no impact on the tier. However, the release of ORAS opened up a lot of doors for it; first of all, Icicle Crash became compatible with Knock Off, giving it a more powerful STAB attack that, while lacking in accuracy, has a much better secondary effect than its previous best option, Ice Punch (a 30% chance to cause flinching as opposed to a 10% chance to freeze), and is not affected by Iron Barbs, Rough Skin and Rocky Helmet, enabling it to hit Ferrothorn and Garchomp safely.
    简介
    回到xyou的时代,玛狃拉很难说是特别优秀的pm,他确切的说不算差,但也没有被普遍使用,对分级几乎没有影响。但是,oras的发行给玛狃拉提供了很大的发挥空间。首先,冰柱坠落(Icicle Crash)与打落可以共存了,使得玛狃拉有更稳定(?)的攻击技能,尽管冰柱坠落命中不满,但与之前的优选冰拳相比,有更好的特效,(冰拳10%冰冻,坠落30%害怕),并且不会被鉄棘,鲨鱼皮和坚硬头盔伤害,打击地龙和草钢更安全了。


    IP属地:浙江2楼2015-08-02 21:17
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      Shortly thereafter, Greninja was banned, which not only led to people using Weavile as an obvious substitute, but also caused a chain of events leading to Weavile's skyrocket in usage and viability. The usage of Grass-types such as Celebi and Serperior and Psychic-types such as Starmie, Alakazam, Slowking and Reuniclus went up, with the latter group being particularly important because it caused a demand for a fast Pursuit trapper to go up as well. The increased usage of Grass- and Psychic-types also led to a slight decline in the usage of Keldeo, one of Weavile's greatest checks.
      不久之后,忍蛙被喜闻乐见的ban了,玛狃拉是人们很容易想到的替代品,并且被ban引起的一系列反应使得玛狃拉在使用率和生存能力有了质的飞跃。草系pm例如草蛇,蜡笔以及超能系pm海星,胡地,呆吧,细胞的使用率上涨。后者导致了对高速追击的需求。草系和超能的使用率上涨也轻微的影响了玛狃拉最大的天敌水驴(马)的使用率。
      Finally, Garchomp emerged as an universal check to fast physical attackers, Tornadus-T jumped to OU, and Dragon Dance Mega Altaria gained a big boost in popularity. All three of these Pokémon are big threats for offensive teams, many of which turned to Weavile as a way to check, revenge kill, or just bypass these threats. In short, multiple favorable metagame trends led Weavile to go from just another BL Pokémon to one of the biggest threats in the OU tier.
      最后,地龙作为一种普遍的高速超能进攻手的反制手段涌现,风基鸟上升到了ou,龙舞m避孕龙的使用率也有很大提升。这三只pm对于攻队都是很大的威胁,很多队伍选择了玛狃拉进行针对,反杀,减轻压力。简单的说,环境发生的多种有利改变使得玛狃拉从bl的普通pm变成了ou最可怕的威胁。


      IP属地:浙江3楼2015-08-02 21:18
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        Weavile's Qualities
        Weavile's greatest quality is undoubtedly its incredible base 125 Speed, enabling it to outspeed every single relevant unboosted OU threat besides Talonflame, Mega Lopunny, Mega Manectric, Mega Aerodactyl, and Mega Alakazam, with the latter two taking massive damage from Ice Shard. Weavile's access to priority is also a very good trait, helping it avoid being revenge killed by most priority moves, faster attackers, and Choice Scarf users. In short, Weavile functions as a fantastic anti-offense tool that can deal significant damage to almost any offensive threat. And while Weavile's base 120 Attack may not be stellar, it's still solid, enabling it to hit quite hard when backed up by a Life Orb.
        玛狃拉能力分析
        毫无疑问,玛狃拉最优秀的能力是它高达125的基础速度,致使它超越ou中几乎所有基础速度(不包括家门,m卷耳兔,m雷电兽,m化肥和m胡地),然而前述m化肥和m胡地也会被冰飞重创。先制对玛狃拉来说很有价值,有助于他在应对大多数先制技能,更快的速度种族和围巾的精灵时,不被他们反杀。总之,玛狃拉能对大部分攻队威胁成员造成巨大伤害,从而发挥克制攻队的效果。他120的物攻种族并不算顶尖,却也能够利用,特别是当携带生命玉时能有较可观的伤害。
        Like most Dark-types, Weavile benefitted hugely from the shift to Gen VI — what used to be its best Dark-type STAB attack, the weak Night Slash, was replaced for the far better Knock Off, not only giving it a powerful STAB move, but also a way to cripple Pokémon resistant to Dark by removing their items. Having the fastest STAB Knock Off in the game is definitely a great selling point for Weavile, with most users being rather slow, such as Bisharp and Crawdaunt. And while Dark/Ice coverage used to be completely walled by Steel types, it's quite good now, only resisted by a handful of Pokémon, the most relevant ones being Keldeo, Azumarill, and Bisharp.
        如同大部分恶系pm,玛狃拉受惠于gen5的新设定-更强大的打落代替了试刀成为了最好的恶本技能。不但让玛狃拉拥有了威力十足的本系,也能通过打落道具变相伤害抵抗恶本的pm。打落pm速度第一绝对是个亮点,因为别的打落pm,如钢兵和铁鳌龙虾等速度比较劣势。然而,从前恶系要面临许多钢系pm的阻挡,如今抵御恶系的pm只有一手之数,最常见的有水马,玛丽露丽和钢兵。


        IP属地:浙江4楼2015-08-02 21:18
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          Playing with Weavile
          Weavile @ Life Orb
          Ability: Pressure
          EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
          Jolly Nature
          - Knock Off
          - Icicle Crash
          - Ice Shard
          - Low Kick / Pursuit / Swords Dance
          Weavile is a very straightforward Pokémon that only really runs one set in OU. Knock Off and Icicle Crash act as its main STAB attacks on this set, with Knock Off being particularly spammable. Ice Shard is very useful to revenge kill a range of threats such as +1 Altaria, Choice Scarf Landorus-T, Choice Scarf Garchomp, weakened +1 Mega Charizard X, and weakened Mega Lopunny. The final move is mostly team-dependent — Low Kick hits Steel-types such as Heatran, Bisharp, and Ferrothorn, as well as Dark types such as Mega Gyarados, Tyranitar, and opposing Weavile. Pursuit is very useful on teams that are weak to Latios, Starmie, and other Psychic-types, as it enables Weavile to trap them and pave the way for a teammate such as Keldeo or Mega Alakazam to sweep. Swords Dance is a very risky move due to Weavile's paper-thin bulk and bad defensive typing, but if it forces a switch and sets up, it can be extremely threatening and can OHKO Pokémon with Knock Off that it would otherwise not have been able to 2HKO, such as Heatran and Manaphy. Finally, Poison Jab is also a decent move on Weavile, as it can lure Fairy-types such as Azumarill and Clefable, but it is generally overshadowed by other options.
          如何与玛狃拉愉快玩耍
          Weavile @ Life Orb
          Ability: Pressure
          EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
          Jolly Nature
          - Knock Off (打落)
          - Icicle Crash (冰柱坠落)
          - Ice Shard (冰飞)
          - Low Kick / Pursuit / Swords Dance(下踢/追击/剑舞)
          玛狃拉是一个非常直白的pm,在ou就这么一种用法。打落和冰坠是稳定的输出手段(作者看来是欧洲人),尤其是打落,几乎可以无脑点。冰飞可以反杀一系列pm例如舞过的避孕龙,围巾地龙,围巾土云,不健康的x喷和m兔子。最后一招主要由队伍决定,下踢可以踹草钢火钢钢兵等一众钢和m鲤鱼班吉拉以及同类。追击在弱哥哥海星及其他超能的队伍中十分有用,可以用玛狃拉抓掉这些pm为胡地和水马清场铺路。剑舞是非常有风险的选择,毕竟玛狃拉身板跟纸一样,抗性也差。但如果读换抓住机会舞起来了,那是十分有威胁的,可以利用打落第一下0hko原来不能2hko的pm例如火钢和玛娜菲。毒突也是适宜的选择,可以重创被勾引的蓝胖和皮之类的仙盾,但一般来讲这个技能被上述3个更好的选择掩盖了。


          IP属地:浙江5楼2015-08-02 21:19
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            Weavile is mostly used as an anti-offense tool that can use its fast Speed to threaten a huge amount of offensive threats; however, it has a hard time functioning when its checks are still active, as it easily gets worn down and hates being forced out. That being said, it is able to severely weaken checks such as Keldeo and Azumarill thanks to Knock Off, especially if said checks lack reliable recovery.
            玛狃拉普遍被用于利用它的高速反制一系列攻pm,然而在它的天敌还健康的时候它很的发挥会很苦难,因为它很容易被命玉磨伤并且它害怕被逼退。尽管如此,它能够利用打落重创水马蓝胖之类的天敌,尤其是当这些pm缺乏可靠的回复的时候
            Weavile should never attempt to switch in directly on anything because it takes massive damage from even defensive Pokémon, which, especially when paired with chip damage from Stealth Rock, can lead it to be KOed prematurely by its own Life Orb recoil. Instead, it should rely on either a teammate's slow Volt Switch or U-turn, double switches, or coming in after another member of your team is KOed. These same methods should be used to trap Psychic-types if running Pursuit, and although Weavile can switch in on a predicted Psychic move, most players will avoid using Psychic-type moves or keeping their Psychic-types in too long so as to not give a free turn for Weavile to trap them.
            玛狃拉不应该尝试去直接承受伤害交换上场,即使是受pm的技能也能给它造成大量伤害,尤其是当场上有钉子的时候,很容易导致它贸然的被自己的生命玉伤害击倒。相反,它应该依靠其他队友的低速电反,ut双反上场,或者在队友挂了之后无伤上场。这些方法也应该被用于利用追击抓超能pm的时候,尽管玛狃拉可以读超能技能上场,但大多玩家会尽量避免使用超能技能或者让超能pm留场过长,给玛狃拉留下机会。


            IP属地:浙江6楼2015-08-02 21:19
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              Playing against Weavile
              Weavile is quite frail, especially physically, and vulnerable to most attacking types, so faster attackers such as Mega Manectric and Mega Lopunny and priority users such as Talonflame, Conkeldurr, Mega Metagross, or Choice Band Dragonite can check it, as long as they do not fear Ice Shard too much or simply outspeed or out-prioritize Weavile.
              如何吊打玛狃拉
              玛狃拉物耐方面相当脆,并且被很多属性克制,所以更高速的pm例如mega女郎兔,mega电狗,还有先制pm如家门,民工,m巨金,cb肥大都能够针对性的解决它,只要他们不是太怕冰飞或者没有玛狃拉快。(废话真多)
              Water-types such as Manaphy, Gyarados, Quagsire, Suicune, Alomomola, and to a lesser extent Rotom-W are usually good Weavile checks, but they tend to be crippled by Knock Off (with the exception of Mega Gyarados). However, those with reliable recovery can wall it quite convincingly after taking a Knock Off, as the next one will be much weaker, but they must be wary of Swords Dance, which enables Knock Off to deal massive initial damage.
              水系精灵如玛娜菲,鲤鱼,沼王,水军,007鱼通常能很好的挡下它,洗衣机也在有一定的反制能力,但它们也很容易被打落打残(除了m鲤鱼)。然而那些有稳定回复的在吃一发打落后能够非常稳的封掉玛狃拉,因为下一发打落力度会变小,但它们也必须小心剑舞。
              Fairies such as Azumarill and Clefable resist Weavile's best move, Knock Off, and can therefore deal with it1 quite well, as long as they aren't hit too hard by Icicle Crash.
              仙系pm如蓝胖皮婶等由于抗打落,在不太怕冰柱坠落的情况下,可以比较好的解决它,
              Mega Scizor is the best Weavile counter there is, and other Steel-types such as Skarmory or Ferrothorn act as decent checks, but most of them fear Low Kick.
              Fighting-types such as Keldeo, Mega Heracross, Infernape, and Cobalion can also deal with it relatively easily for much the same reasons. However, they usually lack reliable recovery and are rather easy to wear down, with the exception of Infernape.
              m螳螂是最好的反制玛狃拉的手段,钢鸟草钢等其他钢也是不错的解决方案,但是打多少钢系惧怕下踢。m赫拉,水马,大师兄,钢羊也可以解决玛狃拉,然而除了大师兄以外它们通常缺少稳定回复,并且不够硬,
              Simply preventing Weavile from being sent in isn't too hard given that it takes a lot of damage from most attacks; this is achieved even more easily if Stealth Rock is up. Generally speaking, Weavile hates being forced out given that it has very few opportunities to come in and it is very easy to wear down, so sending a check against it a couple of times is usually enough to permanently deal with it.
              简单的预防玛狃拉并不是十分困难,考虑到大多数攻招都能重创玛狃拉,简单的预防玛狃拉并不是十分困难,如果有岩钉这就更容易了。一般而言玛狃拉害怕被逼退,考虑到它上场的机会很少,并且很容易被命玉弄死,所以多次用物盾挡下它通常就能够干掉它了


              IP属地:浙江8楼2015-08-02 21:20
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                Get out there!
                Weavile, while not an excellent Pokémon in and of itself, has been greatly blessed by recent metagame trends. And, like most Pokémon that gain huge popularity for their anti-metagame qualities and officially become part of the metagame, it will undoubtedly see the rest of metagame adapt to it in return. In fact, this is already happening—Pokémon such as Mega Scizor, Mega Venusaur, and Infernape are also seeing increased usage partly for their ability to handle Weavile. That's not to say that Weavile hasn't cemented itself as a top threat in OU; however, I highly recommend you use it right now, when it's at its peak of effectiveness. You will not be disappointed.
                就是干!
                玛狃拉,本身不是特别优秀的pm,然而在当前环境的加成下十分凶猛。像大多数针对环境并影响环境的高人气pm一样,玛狃拉也会毫无疑问的见证环境的改变,变得更适应它。事实上这已经发生了,例如m螳螂,m妙蛙(?)还有大师兄也因为它们处理玛狃拉的能力使用率上升。这不是说玛狃拉没有巩固自己ou顶尖威胁的地位,我非常推荐在它发挥最大效用的时候使用它,就现在。你不会失望的。
                译者曰:什么鸟玩意儿。
                本帖内容仅供学习交流之用不代表本人观点,版权归属原作者。


                IP属地:浙江11楼2015-08-02 21:25
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                  “m赫拉,水马,大师兄,钢羊也可以解决玛狃拉,然而除了大师兄以外他们通常缺少稳定回复,并且不够硬。”
                  弱弱问一下,m赫拉和钢羊不够硬么。。。


                  来自Android客户端12楼2015-08-02 23:43
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                    这就是为什么我基本上只翻译双打技术文了


                    来自iPhone客户端13楼2015-08-03 00:54
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                      本吧多次讨论过这个精灵的问题......恶冰在进攻端的打击面广+高攻高速,从某种意义上甚至胜过需要猜拳的钢兵.
                      之前使用率不那么高只能说是仙系出现的惯性.


                      来自手机贴吧14楼2015-08-03 01:11
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                        看完了感觉和没说一样....


                        IP属地:福建15楼2015-08-03 08:51
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                          后排顶铁匠聚聚


                          IP属地:山东16楼2015-08-03 12:15
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                            玛纽拉最大的价值还是王证吧。。。ub还挺好用的


                            来自Android客户端17楼2015-08-11 20:22
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                              谢谢楼主,玛狃拉真本命


                              IP属地:上海来自Android客户端18楼2015-08-13 18:30
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